tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post5970258379835636828..comments2023-08-04T01:37:48.433-07:00Comments on 17 Barks: Dog attack report by breed - November 2012Jakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00482549578598366599noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-79083706917496662922014-11-29T12:33:30.717-08:002014-11-29T12:33:30.717-08:00You sound ridiculous. By your logic, why aren'...You sound ridiculous. By your logic, why aren't other abused dogs responsible for fatal attacks and maulings? I've seen thousands of abused dogs firsthand in India that are beaten daily and are starving but no one has EVER heard of them mauling anyone. Why is that? Because they aren't pitbulls. Pitbulls were kept because they're unpredictable and aggressive: FACT. Why don't drug dealers and dog fighters keep other breeds like retrievers? Because they naturally aggressive ! You cannot argue against statistics from all over the country and you certainly CANNOT argue the fact that where pits have been banned, those cities have seen a dramatic drop in maulings by any dogs. <br />Pits make up a tiny percent of the dog population here but lead in all fatalities and maulings. Why is that? Other breeds are getting abused more often than this just because they exist in greater numbers. They don't maul their owners or jump off balconies to attack passing by people and kids across the street. It is a breed specific problem. PERIOD. Your lack of logic puts the rest of us in danger. Why the HELL should we be subject to your crap logic to buy this breed? Why don't you buy another one?! Why do you people insist on this breed? <br />You people are so full of yourselves and you will defend your stupid choices until you die while other people are mauled by your precious breed. Wow. You're pathetic. Live with rabid dogs then. They can be cured with your awesome love too. It's all about how you raise them right? Get out of our society of sane people. Taniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12559289232353215025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-83457180436419460582014-08-12T20:34:31.878-07:002014-08-12T20:34:31.878-07:00@Captain Brainstem -
We are truly sorry if you d...@Captain Brainstem - <br /><br />We are truly sorry if you don't feel your wishes are being attended to quickly enough. <br /><br />We are all strictly volunteers, with full time jobs and many other commitments and obligations, and thus, checking for comments on long dormant articles is not a high priority. In fact, even if you had something interesting to say, if you read the notice at the end of each article, you will see that we make no guarantees that we will post comments on dormant articles, as we prefer readers comment on current articles instead.<br /><br />Note that this blog does not exist primarily to provide a soapbox for pit bull propaganda, accusations, or passive aggressive drama; but if you feel your views are not getting enough attention, we encourage you to write your own blog.<br /><br />And yet here we are, bending over backwards, as it were, to publish your propaganda. I take your statements about "intellectual dishonesty" and a "weakly defensible view" as nothing more than the tedious drama that they are. <br /><br />Good luck on your blogging career!Jakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00482549578598366599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-72875229170046951022014-08-12T19:46:08.283-07:002014-08-12T19:46:08.283-07:00Captain brain stem:
While any and all animal abus...Captain brain stem:<br /><br />While any and all animal abuse is unacceptable, your attempt to blame the epidemic of pit bull attacks on abuse falls flat on its face. While pit bulls may well be abused, this is quite a separate matter from the problem of pit bull violence. Old time dog fighters knew that a confident, well fed pit bull was the most likely to attack. <br /><br />Giancarla Churchman documented that evidence thoroughly in her document "my pit bull experience" in which she adopted a pit bull and was diligent and consistent, doing everything by the book to raise it right, but later came to heartily regret the harm she caused her sweet Lab by bringing the pit bull into the home. <br /><br />If you'd bothered to take a peek at these attack cases you feel so qualified to explain, you'd see that the vast majority of horrific pit bull attacks on humans are from well treated, well raised, well behaved "family pit bulls" that displayed that pit bull propensity for sudden, random, unpredictable violence. In most cases, the fateful attack was the first ever sign of aggression from the pit bull. <br /><br />So because not every pit bull is guaranteed to attack, you folks think everything is fine. The problem is that there is absolutely no way to know if a given pit bull is going to attack. There are no warning signs. It nearly always comes as a complete shock to the owners and the victims.<br /><br />Most serial killers acted like normal, decent human beings 99% of the time. You folks may like those odds, but to me the payoff just isn't there.<br /><br />But to animal lovers everywhere, the real problem with pit bulls is that their violence against animals is orders of magnitude worse than their violence against humans. Responsible pit bull owners know that you never, ever trust a pit bull not to attack another animal. It's pretty much guaranteed. For the things that pit bulls do to many animals every day, a human would be jailed for felony animal cruelty. <br /><br />As the old dog fighter said, a pit bull that hasn't killed another dog is a pit bull that hasn't been let outside.<br /><br />How can you argue for the continued proliferation of pit bulls? It defies common sense, it defies compassion, it defies common decency.<br /><br />Signed, someone who's been thereAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-7796796374178102942014-08-12T19:20:58.841-07:002014-08-12T19:20:58.841-07:00Captain Brainstem - wow...
You mentioning being a...Captain Brainstem - wow...<br /><br />You mentioning being a statistician, but I'm not hearing anything that suggests you have any knowledge of statistics. You claim to be unbiased, with no agenda (sure, spending hours trolling and commenting on pit bull blogs is what disinterested parties always do, right?), but you show up spouting talking points straight from pit bull propaganda central.<br /><br />So, your theory is that labs can't commit fatal or disfiguring attacks as pit bulls do, because they don't have the physical capability... rubbish - a 60 or 80 pound Lab is quite capable of killing another dog, or a human, if he were so inclined. But a Lab is what we call a normal dog. Normal dogs are highly social creatures, who use signals to resolve conflict without serious harm, and inhibit their bite force. <br /><br />In other words, any fairly large dog has the physical capability to be lethal. It's just that normal dogs avoid violence, while pit bulls were bred to seek out conflict, initiate violence, and not to stop.<br /> <br />I'll have to admit I'm disappointed, as I'd have hoped to read something of significance. But there's just nothing there; your stated views indicate that you have never taken a look at the data, but are merely regurgitating pit bull propaganda.<br />Dick "Grand Slam" Johnsonhttp://www.zombo.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-87969765216119026022014-08-12T12:37:48.758-07:002014-08-12T12:37:48.758-07:00@ captain brainstem -
What we have here is a fai...@ captain brainstem - <br /><br />What we have here is a failure to communicate. While I'd rather see the problem solved as peacefully as possible, I fully understand the motivation of those who simply want to end the slaughter of the helpless. And since you brought up "dog-loving", what is the point of an animal for which the sole purpose is to kill dogs? Tens of thousand of innocent dogs are tortured to death every year by pit bulls, doing what pit bulls were bred to do. Any true dog lover would defend the helpless, not promote the maulers.<br /><br />You misquoted me above, so just to set the record straight, I said that there are other breeds with much higher bite force (not "almost as much) For instance, a kangal has 3 times the bite force of a pit bull. I've seen more than one kangal forced to fight a game pit bull, and even though the kangal was far less interested in fighting than the pit bull was, the pit bull kept attacking until the kangal was forced to kill it to end the attack. <br /><br />So yes, sadly, livestock guardians have to deal with pit bulls nowadays, and yet with all that power, you don't see livestock guardians running around on killing sprees. It comes down to the difference between an animal bred to protect weaker creatures, and an animal bred to torture weaker creatures.<br /><br />And I'm not sure what to say about your "perfect storm" theory about why pit bulls are so violent. What matters to me is that you acknowledge that there is a problem - but you've offered no solution whatsoever. No relief, no mercy for the victims - just excuses and rationalizations for the maulings, and an implied demand to accept the rivers of blood as the new normal. <br /><br />You're free to believe whatever you want about whether another breed, not bred for sport torture, could somehow start acting like pit bulls. It seems to me to be nothing more than wishful thinking on your part, and what drives that, if not an agenda? <br /><br />Your claim of being neutral are patently dishonest, given the amount of attention you've been giving this blog, and the incessant pit bull propaganda. <br /><br />My only question is this: What solution can you offer, what help for the victims? All I see in your manifesto is a recipe for business as usual, and more maulings.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-38481381336639790062014-08-09T21:51:12.374-07:002014-08-09T21:51:12.374-07:00I understand it's your blog & that you pre...I understand it's your blog & that you prefer only publishing posts sympathetic to your view. Just be aware that it betrays an intellectually dishonest debate & weakly defensible view on your part.Captain Brainstemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01851332161681427392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-47949140556063000602014-08-08T23:50:49.209-07:002014-08-08T23:50:49.209-07:00I can't respond in full right now, but several...I can't respond in full right now, but several posters above referred to Pitt stats justifying extermination of their "breed." I'm encouraged to hear you agree that such declarations are indeed "hysterical" and not at all consistent with dog-loving!<br /><br />Otherwise, I see that you don't dispute my basic reasoning. Yes, retrievers are more numerous than Pitts (though weaker physiologically & not exactly a subcultures favorite). Yes, many breeds have much bigger, stronger bodies & some even have jaws almost as powerful (yet they're not nearly as numerous as Pitts). Finally, for decades now, no breed approaches the subcultural status of Pitts. So while some dog breeds are bigger/stronger, and yet other breeds are more common than Pitts, again the forces of population size, physiology, and subcultural socialization are unique to Pitts, and you never even countered as much. It's for these reasons I believe that ANY breed so afflicted by the same forces would rival Pitts' stats. <br /><br />Regarding the disproportionate number of Pitts that came to our shelter abused & mistreated, you're absolutely right that popularity helped explain it, which is largely my point. The shelter kept stats, and their popularity was fairly consistent with attack disparity rates. <br /><br />I know you'd really like me to have an agenda, but I simply don't. I'm not a Pitt owner, breeder, enthusiast, or even a dog person. I'm actually just a statistician & interpret studies and meta-analysis for a living.<br /><br />Captain Brainstemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01851332161681427392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-58956893739083129632014-08-08T20:46:39.839-07:002014-08-08T20:46:39.839-07:00Your anecdote that more pit bulls came in battered...Your anecdote that more pit bulls came in battered and abused is likely due to the fact that far more pit bulls came in, period.<br /><br />As to the rest of your claims:<br /><br />You said "up for dispute are the reasons" that pit bulls claim so many victims. <br /><br />The reasons are clear enough to anyone with a passing acquaintance with the history of the breed. developed specifically to commit atrocities against helpless animals for fun, and the result of this directed breeding/torture cycle was a type of dog which would happily tear apart a weaker creature for no particular reason. <br /><br />You said: "...no other dog breed combines quite the same population numbers, physiology & sub-cultural status as Pitts"<br /><br />Fact: Large retrievers are more numerous than pit bull type dogs; the Labrador Retriever is in fact the most popular dog in America.<br />So where are the large retrievers in the dog attack stats? It's as if they don't even exist.<br /><br />Fact: pit bulls are nowhere near the largest or strongest of dogs, and they have nowhere near the bite force of large guardian breeds e.g. kangals. It's not size, strength or bite force that makes pit bulls dangerous, it's the unpredictability, insensitivity to pain, the relentless attack mode. Once a pit bull begins torturing a victim, it does not willingly stop.<br /><br />The correlation of hgher chance attack by intact vs neutered males is well known, but neutered pit bulls commit horrific attacks every day. Consider this: most pit bulls are not neutered, and most attacks are by pit bulls. So it is the breed, or the neuter status that we're looking at? Don't confuse correlation with causation.<br /><br />I have to admit to becoming nauseated when You said: "I'm far more comfortable having my kids around Pitts I know to be fixed & well raised from puppyhood than I am having them around chows."<br /><br />I'm sorry, but only a sociopath would put their children in that kind of danger. Truly, pit bulls that not only were "fixed and well raised" but also well behaved have killed more children than all other types of non-pit bull type dogs combined - by a huge margin. And you're talking about chows?<br /><br />You said: "And yes, I stand by the opinion that in the absence of clear answers, true dog lovers would be more suspicious of humans' contribution to the problem"<br />But there are clear answers. You just don't want people to find out. <br /><br />Finally, you said: "over mass extermination of all dogs that look like them (since appearance is only defining feature of what we call Pitts)."<br /><br />Why exactly are you talking about mass extermination? It's interesting that when we begin to talk about the issues with having pit bulls in our neighborhoods, you people immediately go into hysterics about "mass extermination". <br /><br />I've got a better idea: How about we don't breed them in the first place? Or do you really not mind the status quo, with pits being bred in such excess that they fill the shelters and a million of them a year are put down?<br /><br />I see what appears to be a profound misunderstanding, on your part, of what defines a pit bull type dog. The definition is not "the random collection of all dogs that happen to look a certain way". No, the definition is much more precise than that. pit bull type dogs are those descended from the animal torturer breeds of the old UK. Simple as. The fact that pit bulls look like pit bulls is merely a useful consequence of the same genetic laws that cause a tomato to look like a tomato, a whale to look like a whale, and a snake to look like a snake. Did you really suppose that it's all so random as that? That if a chihuahua and a beagle were to mate, the offspring might grow up to look just like a German Shepherd?<br /><br />You may or may not have heard about this, but there was a recent study showing that shelter workers were able to identify pit bull genetics 96% of the time in both mixes and full pits.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-15302811837951802132014-08-08T19:25:15.421-07:002014-08-08T19:25:15.421-07:00My experience with pitt bull mistreatment comes fr...My experience with pitt bull mistreatment comes from years of volunteering at DC shelter (cat side). By far more pit bulls came in battered, abused & poorly socialized than any other dog breed. And we euthanized them all, known history or not. <br /><br />No one here disputes the stats that far more Pitts are involved in mailings & deaths than any other breed. Up for dispute are the REASONS. A prevalent argument on this site is that Pitts are by NATURE cold blooded killing machines. Nothing short of controlled experiments can establish that, and they simply don't exist. So at best, anyone's conjecture is yet hypothesis. I do know that no other dog breed combines quite the same population numbers, physiology & sub-cultural status as Pitts. My opinion is that any breed that did would rival the Pitts maul/death stats. <br /><br />Since controlled experiments have established a clear causal link between neutering & tempered aggression, this becomes an obvious additional variable. And I think it's common sense that those who don't value or mistreat their animals are less likely to neuter them, compounding the breed's issues.<br /><br />I don't know the answer. I just know that I'm far more comfortable having my kids around Pitts I know to be fixed & well raised from puppyhood than I am having them around chows. <br /><br />And yes, I stand by the opinion that in the absence of clear answers, true dog lovers would be more suspicious of humans' contribution to the problem - and ways of fixing it - over mass extermination of all dogs that look like them (since appearance is only defining feature of what we call Pitts).Captain Brainstemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01851332161681427392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-17485048222264931772014-08-08T15:29:46.465-07:002014-08-08T15:29:46.465-07:00Another "family pit bull" turns on after...Another "family pit bull" turns on after 10 years of normal behavior: <a href="http://m.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/toddler-in-critical-condition-after-attack-by-family-dog-in/article_146c91ff-18fb-50e1-bd53-62100160b0d9.html" rel="nofollow">toddler mauled by family pit bull</a>Dick "Grand Slam" Johnsonhttp://www.zombo.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-90241440824831021752014-08-08T14:13:57.160-07:002014-08-08T14:13:57.160-07:00There is certainly a problem with pit bull overpop...There is certainly a problem with pit bull overpopulation - a million unwanted pit bulls a year are put down at taxpayer expense after taking up most of the space in local animal shelters. But to suggest that the only problem with pit bulls is oversimplification is demonstrably false, as shown by the rivers of blood shed by these unpredictable torturers. Yes, I'm including animal victims when I say that, since the human victims are merely the tip of the iceberg, the 1%.<br /><br />It's ironic to hear you speak of "any true dog person" since dogs are being mauled to death by pit bulls every day, and "any true dog person" would do anything they could to help stop the slaughter. Don't you find it ironic that those who promote the breed designed to torture and kill dogs call themselves "dog lovers"?<br /><br />The old "mistreated pit bulls" argument has long been a favorite talking point of the pit bull advocacy, as well as the "thug owner" idea. While it may sound logical at first to the proverbial "man in the street", it's flatly contradicted by the facts. If you do just a wee bit of fact checking, you find that the most horrendous pit bull attacks are not coming from mistreated or thug-owned pit bulls. The majority of these fatal and disfiguring attacks are coming from well treated "family pit bulls" which had not previously shown any sign of aggression. So the whole mistreatment, poor socialization excuse goes out the window. <br /><br />As far as being "more likely to be mistreated" - what form does this mistreatment take? Where can I find some evidence of this? I know for a fact that greyhounds and beagles are horribly mistreated, and they have not been responsible for a single death. While mistreatment of any animal is a serious matter, I hope you can realize that it's a completely separate issue from that of pit bull violence.<br /><br />So, all the pits you've met have been "gentle and predictable" - and the tens of thousands of helpless animals tortured to death by pit bulls last year? does that count for anything? The funny thing about your "gentle and predictable" remark is that it's based on a moment in time which by definition is impossible to draw a conclusion about predictability. I know of people whose pit bulls were wonderful and docile for years, and then the pit bull turned on, and did what pit bulls were designed to do. In each of these cases, people were shocked, and people continue to be shocked every day as pit bulls turn on and the blood flows<br /><br />It's interesting that you can accept that a type of dog bred to point, will point, purely from instinct, with no training required, a shepherd will herd, from instinct, with no training required, a retriever will retrieve, from instinct, with no training required, a guardian will guard, from instinct, with no training required. <br /><br />But somehow, when it comes to the type of dog which was developed to torture animals for sport, a result of centuries of work to create an animal which would happily tear apart a weaker creature for no particular reason, science goes out the window, and you don't believe in genetics anymore?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-70811219540061351712014-08-08T13:39:46.492-07:002014-08-08T13:39:46.492-07:00Not sure how I found this site; I was researching ...Not sure how I found this site; I was researching the Cane Corso a neighbor has which is big as a pony, strong as an Ox, and sweet as a bunny. I agree with the commenter who said that the problem with pit bulls is a spay/neuter one. Any true dog lover should further vet the stars to explore correlation b/w PB fix status & attacks. I also agee that as a fairly popular dog - especially among thugs more interested in them as weapons than companions - they're likelier to be mistreated, under socialized & abandoned than other breeds. Their numbers & rates of poor socialization, couples with powerful jaws & cultural aversions to neutering male dogs, a perfect storm ensues. <br /><br />I'm a cat person & never "guardianed" a dog in my life. Yet all the neutered pitts & staffys of friends raised well from puppyhood I've known to be as gentle & predictable as any retriever I've known. Yeah, everyone has an anecdote, but that's been my experience.Captain Brainstemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01851332161681427392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-5733552129014958642014-06-12T09:53:59.551-07:002014-06-12T09:53:59.551-07:00@Jon Crans - at first glance your statement seems ...@Jon Crans - at first glance your statement seems logical, and perhaps that is why pit bull social workers frequently toss that out as a talking point, to distract from the real problem.<br /><br />You may believe that "irresponsible owners" result in more dog attacks than any breed, but when you just begin to take a look at the data, the extreme over representation of pit bull type dogs in disfiguring and fatal attacks is apparent. What the data says is that breed is far and away the key factor. <br /><br />I know you don't want to hear it, but try to think about this: Not one of the mistreated, abused, untrained Irish Setters in North America have ever maimed or killed a single person. <br /><br />On the other hand. well-treated, loved, trusted "family pit bulls" are killing family members regularly. <br /><br />So which owners are the "irresponsible" ones? <br /><br />Here's a thought that will blow your mind: Responsible dog ownership begins with your choice of breed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-38155514243240930792014-05-07T19:00:19.004-07:002014-05-07T19:00:19.004-07:00I agree. Any large breed is capable of inflicting ...I agree. Any large breed is capable of inflicting more damage because of the physical strength they are born with. The way an animal is treated and raised makes all of the difference in the way they socialize with people. Period. I believe irresponsible owners result in more dog attacks than any breed. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07987622189981800750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-63787788188593596412014-04-27T06:15:11.746-07:002014-04-27T06:15:11.746-07:00..Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06095329102623507214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-57070342874834183832014-04-07T15:23:05.613-07:002014-04-07T15:23:05.613-07:00The facts say otherwise. I understand that you may...The facts say otherwise. I understand that you may be convinced that it's all in how you raise them, but I know a number of people who used to say exactly what you're saying . But one by one they've all come to understand their error. In each case, a much loved, well-treated, well-behaved "family pit bull" suddenly turned on, with zero warning, and tore their child apart.<br /><br />The old "owner must have abused them" scam gets old after awhile. If that were true, why is it that dog fighters are never killed by pit bulls? It's only the naive fur moms who end up being shocked when their "baby" suddenly kills the cat, the little dogs next door, or the baby. <br /><br />And here's something else to think about. Why is it that you believe only pit bulls have bad owners? But in contrast, Irish setters have never had a bad owner? In the 32 years that serious dog attacks on humans have been tracked, there has not been a single disfiguring or fatal attack by an Irish Setter. And yet, there are disfiguring or fatal pit bull attacks on humans every single say - and many vicious pit bull attacks on helpless animals.<br /><br />But after every single pit bull attack, you folks storm the news sites who dared to report it, attacking and blaming the victims and insisting that pit bulls are gentle, misunderstood creatures. It's surreal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-75213649214395616732014-04-07T15:11:58.325-07:002014-04-07T15:11:58.325-07:00I wish everyone could see how much a pit can actua...I wish everyone could see how much a pit can actually be a good dog if it is trained by the right people. The only way a pit bull would ever hurt anything would be because of its owner. They are the sweetest dogs i have come to know.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17695246631342271254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-84390413419142347502014-03-01T22:13:54.386-08:002014-03-01T22:13:54.386-08:00I hear your frustration, I worked as an impounding...I hear your frustration, I worked as an impounding ranger for 18mths. Dealt with all types of dogs, Pitties and their crosses were very low percentage wise, maybe 5%. However, when it came to the serious dog attacks I had to deal with Pitties were 80% of the cases.Sarah E Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12221053635015633969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-70446432111330570252014-02-12T21:50:54.018-08:002014-02-12T21:50:54.018-08:00Breeds that are in the "pit bull" family...Breeds that are in the "pit bull" family/bully breeds that were unlisted. Boxer, alapaha blue blood, American bull dog, cane corso, bull terrier, bull mastiff, olde English bulldoge, Renascence Bulldogge, victorion bulldog Ambullneo mastiff ,Argentine Mastiff, ca due boy, valley bulldog (aka boxer bulldog) there's a few more but I'll stop there. @ stinger if we're going to take the time to read your post please read ours. If you look at some of these dogs you can't tell a difference between apbt and specific breeds I just listed. I think both sides of the arguments facts are skewed to make them look better. Everybody has an agenda. If we just started using common sense in ths country instead of pointing the finger we wouldn't have whiney b@#$%&! on this subject.read between the lineshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00723750547130946041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-13119577521740589762013-06-08T07:56:55.290-07:002013-06-08T07:56:55.290-07:00Haven't you guys noticed if the media cant tel...Haven't you guys noticed if the media cant tell what kind of dog attacked they just call it a Pitbull.Pitbulls arent a breed.They are American Pitbull terriers,American Bulldog,Staffordshire terriers,Pitbull Terrier.And other breeds.So stop blaming a breed that doesn't exsistAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04156609614526139520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-37273491000129009162013-03-31T08:55:25.130-07:002013-03-31T08:55:25.130-07:00Thank you!!!!! Someone with some sense here!Thank you!!!!! Someone with some sense here!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03841347178655550622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-2599888493322857502013-02-20T19:55:07.504-08:002013-02-20T19:55:07.504-08:00I agree Gill.. It's horrificI agree Gill.. It's horrific Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-85235870455085906872013-02-17T10:26:52.648-08:002013-02-17T10:26:52.648-08:00I hope the pit bull advocates get to see this page...I hope the pit bull advocates get to see this page... if they are still CRAZY enough to believe pit bulls should be kept in society then they are as psychopathic as their precious dogs. I am shocked, outraged and profoundly upset to see a child so horrifically traumatized / scarred for life and as a mother will FIGHT TO GET THESE DOGS AWAY FROM SOCIETY . HORRENDOUS !!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-35393429378673091962012-11-18T15:22:08.494-08:002012-11-18T15:22:08.494-08:00Thank you Jake!! Finally, some rational statements...Thank you Jake!! Finally, some rational statements backed up with REAL statistics. I have been in the animal control field for many, many years and I am sick to death of people defending these dogs. Including co-workers who see the same damage I see weekly done by these dogs. The dogs are dangerous and should be treated as such by their owners. If the owners contained them properly(and by contained I mean a leash attached to someone strong enough and smart enough to hold on to the dog) there would be very few incidents. I interview owners after attacks several times a month and EVERY single owner says "he/she never did anything like this before". But somewhere along the way someone warned them and they failed to listen. The attacks I see aren't from "gangbanger" types or "trashy types" they are typical suburban families who have never abused the dogs. And the problem has gotten worse over the years, I believe in part to the DENIAL of most "rescue" people who insist they have a "bad rap". B@#$S*&^!! You want to own one and change peoples minds? THEN DON'T DENY THE DAMAGE THE DOG CAN DO AND TREAT IT AS SUCH!!! Keep it under control and don't deny that it can and may cause horrific damage. Don't leave it outside unattended, I have seen dogs scale a six foot fence like it was nothing, don't let it play with your kids friends(pits have a high prey drive and screaming children seem to be able to kick that drive into gear), don't take it to dog parks(pits are notoriously bad at reading other dogs body language), and DON'T trust it with your sleeping baby(no baby should be left with any dog in the room without supervision). IF those owners were honest with themseleves then they would prevent these attacks from occuring and they would have to resort to throwing chihuahuas under the bus and the "nanny dog" myth. I would rather be mauled by a pack of chihuahuas then one pit bull. The ignorance lies in the denial of genetic predisposition. These dogs were chosen by people for dog fighting because they were predisposed to aggressive tendencies. Not unlike the border collie who will herd anything in sight whether it has been trained or not. The denial in the owners of this breed is unlike that of any other breed. I like shepherds but I readily admit that I can not train the protective instinct out of them. Huskies run, beagles howl, chows are just not nice.....but you don't see chow owners pretending their dogs are friendly mush balls. You don't see akita owners saying its the way you raise them. KNOW WHAT YOU OWN and be cognizant of the genetics at all times and you likely won't have a problem or if you do, the dog will just maul you inside your home, if you have kept it properly contained. THANKS AGAIN JAKE!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-70404985346887480412012-11-16T22:01:44.530-08:002012-11-16T22:01:44.530-08:00@ Sandra
"Pit bulls are wonderful, loving an...@ Sandra<br /><br />"Pit bulls are wonderful, loving animals that deserve the chance to have a good life."<br /><br />I stopped reading your post when I reached the above quoted text. Its clear that you are still in dreamland. They are not wonderful and they are not loving. They are dangerous, unstable, & unpredictable animals that on impulse will attack people and other animals. If there is one animal that should be driven to extinction, its the pit bull terrier.Stingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17906928298668085800noreply@blogger.com