tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post4149577063159454939..comments2023-08-04T01:37:48.433-07:00Comments on 17 Barks: The problem with pit bulls, part 2Jakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00482549578598366599noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-50387713129076289762017-12-18T02:22:22.080-08:002017-12-18T02:22:22.080-08:00Not to mention, the pit nutters should also arm th...Not to mention, the pit nutters should also arm themselves with liability insurance, for when the inevitable happens. vanizorchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09990142331461433107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-6306743056259722852013-10-17T02:41:18.819-07:002013-10-17T02:41:18.819-07:00Mate you have not one clue what you are talking ab...Mate you have not one clue what you are talking about, any dog can attack any person, simple as that, it all depends on how a dog is raised. If it is raised well then it will be a good dog, yes pitbulls are fighting dogs with a fighting nature but what can be bred into them can also be bred out of them.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14136135254914357719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-13298443632369810292013-09-16T19:22:06.344-07:002013-09-16T19:22:06.344-07:00I love it when some foul mouthed pit freak shows u...I love it when some foul mouthed pit freak shows up to set us all straight. Hey Einstein, I've got a news flash for you. Some of us were pit bull owners too, and big pit bull fans like you.<br /><br />BTW you've got it ass backwards about pit bull attacks. The pit freaks always play games with the breed when a pit bull attacks. They'll lie and call it a "boxer mix" or a "lab mix" or some kind of mastiff. But it's getting harder to deceive everyone these days, when attack reports include, images and videos of the attacking dog, ACO records, owner statements, police reports and more. And when pit bull owner says it's a pit bull, the ACO and police say it's a pit bull, and the images and video make it perfectly clear that it's a pit bull, some ethereal pit advocate comes along and screams "where's the DNA test that proves it's a pit bull" or some other idiotic nonsense. <br /><br />As for your experience with pit bulls, surely you're not suggesting that your good luck at pit bull roulette trumps the hundreds of disfiguring or fatal pit bull attacks so far this year, or the thousands of innocent pets killed by pit bulls so far this year, are you?<br /><br />When someone gets a pit bull for protection, thinking it will somehow make them safer, it's truly sad, because pit bulls end up injuring or killing family members far more often than intruders. <br /><br />I'd encourage you to do some research - educate yourself instead of repeating all the same old dumb propaganda. We've heard it all a thousand times before and it's just as groundless as ever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-85342288195215545242013-09-16T02:31:57.537-07:002013-09-16T02:31:57.537-07:00if you havnt been blessed to raise a pit shut the ...if you havnt been blessed to raise a pit shut the fu#K up,stop talking about the news said this that article said that or my friend told me his cousins best friends brother in laws sisters husbands grandfather had a pitbull. Because that's all your doing. Do you even know what a real pitbull looks like and if your sooooo smart you should know that more thgan half of ''pitbull'' attacks are actualy dogs that aren't even pitts. I've raised pitbulls since I was 10 years old and not even once have I had any problems your more likely to break into my house than my neighbours with the poodlejunior365https://www.blogger.com/profile/09184045426114896409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-33857922439186374202011-11-19T13:04:23.886-08:002011-11-19T13:04:23.886-08:00Congrats anonymous 7:34 - I don't see any indi...Congrats anonymous 7:34 - I don't see any indication that you actually read the article, but I must admit you did a nice job of copying and pasting the standard pit bull advocacy template complete with the obligatory talking points. I've seen it before, and to someone who had never heard of pit bulls, it might sound convincing. But in reality, every sentence in your pit bull advocacy rant contains inaccuracies.<br /><br />Allow me to address your most egregious statement: You said that pit bulls "will protect their owners with there lives, not hurt them."<br /><br />Where do I start? Dog attack data accumulated over the years show that pit bulls are far more likely to attack their owners than any other breed. Not surprisingly, pit bulls kill their owners at an alarming rate. I'm not talking about dog fighters or abusive owners, but rather, devoted owners who loved their pit bulls, kept them inside and slept with them. People like Carmen Ramos, Michael Cook, BADRAP member Darla Napora and many many more, each of who were attacked suddenly and without warning, suffering gruesome and terrifying deaths from the pit bulls they loved and trusted.<br /><br />Although I could respond to every single one of your fallacies, I really don't want to waste the time. I only hope that people will be encouraged to do some basic fact checking before swallowing propaganda from the pit bull breeder lobby hook line and sinker.Jakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00482549578598366599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-80163211957705485482011-11-18T15:59:26.355-08:002011-11-18T15:59:26.355-08:00Complicating and escalating the pitbull problem is...Complicating and escalating the pitbull problem is nutty people keep several in a household and refusing to spay or neuter them as they are afraid of nuetralizing the aggressive qualities they say don't exist. <br /> The cat community has been very successful in reducing unnecessary euthanization and suffering by pushing spay and neutering but pitbull owners resist. 70 percent of all dog attacks are in unneutered dogs. <br />As for anonymous above who says pitbulls get a bad rap and you should "ban yourself" from being around them... shows just how uninformed their beliefs are... there is no possible way to Ban yourself from being around pitbulls if they are everywhere in your neighborhood, and owners can't control them. I am sorry but the illogical arguments of some pitbull owners make me more afraid as they can't even think logically and will repeat any B.S. about pitbulls they read that is not the truth and they will deny all facts and statistics about the breed. Blaming the media for covering dog attacks by pitbulls and claiming the media focues on pitbulls is pure stupidity. The reason pitbull attacks get on the news is because they do so much more damage and the police have to be called to get control of the dogs. This is not the case with other breeds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-74061863271132068552011-11-17T23:26:20.873-08:002011-11-17T23:26:20.873-08:00spoken like someone who is either still in high sc...spoken like someone who is either still in high school or in need of xanax or has never seen a pit bull.<br /><br />is that you lycan princess?scurrilous amateur bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-42524270308887323312011-11-17T19:34:41.585-08:002011-11-17T19:34:41.585-08:00Blame the owner, not the breed, if your not ready ...Blame the owner, not the breed, if your not ready to handle a pit bull, then don't get one, it is no fair to kill or ban a breed that is not at fault. Pit bulls are very smart and will protect their owners with there lives, not hurt them. Pit bulls have been used by police as search and rescue, as well as attack dogs. They have been used by the military for the same reasons. You wouldn't tell a cop to kill his dog. They are also some of the best working dogs around, many farmers use them to keep livestock in line as well as keeping unwanted pests away. I have owned several pit bulls, both pure bread and mixes and all have been great dogs. Don't sit her and talk about the breed being the bad guy when it is stupid owners such as gangsters, thugs, and people who can't care for such an animal do not take proper precautions. You wouldn't buy a great dane if you had no room to let it run, why then is it ok for people to put a pit bull in a confined space. It is not the habit of a pit bull to hurt people. People are just stupid and put themselves in situations that they should not be in. I have seen other dogs do the same damage to children, pit bulls just get the blame because they are exploited for fighting. I have seen retrievers bit people, but i have never read anyone saying they should ban them from society. Ban yourself from getting the pit or being around them if you have a problem. Don't try and force your uninformed beliefs on people who responsibly take care of their dogs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-48087367548183871652011-10-25T23:44:15.938-07:002011-10-25T23:44:15.938-07:00@Charles W - there is a powerful force at work, ca...@Charles W - there is a powerful force at work, called genetics. The applicable DNA blueprint shapes the form and function of every living thing. The DNA of several breeds of dog were combined by the dog men of Stafford, who selected for maximum violence, and the results have been devastating. There has not been any 10 year period since 1850 where pit bulls have not accounted for at least half of all fatalities from dog attacks.<br /><br />Your apparent idea that "it's all in how you raise them" is discredited by the hugely disproportionate numbers of serious injuries and deaths from pit bull attacks, as compared to attacks from other breeds.<br /><br />There are several types of dog bigger, stronger and with more bite force than pit bulls, but they don't kill people at any where near the rate that pit bulls do - not because they can't, but because they simply don't want to.<br /><br />Some of the most horrific pit bull attacks were not from mistreated animals, but from pit bulls which were loved and pampered, raised from puppies and treated like a member of the family, until the surprise attack, with zero warning.<br /><br />This is one of the hallmarks of pit bulls, something that can truly be called a pit bull specialty: the surprise attack which seriously wounds or kills the owner. <br /><br />To pretend that pit bulls are just like any other dogs is a dangerous deception that is getting people hurt or killed. Every week there are dozens of stories like <a href="http://www.kpho.com/story/15864645/pitball-attacked-owner-shot-by-phoenix-police" rel="nofollow">this one</a> involving a pit bull suddenly attacking its owner. They are like no other breed.Jakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00482549578598366599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-85752516205268312682011-10-25T18:26:53.690-07:002011-10-25T18:26:53.690-07:00the vast majority of professionals agree that pit ...the vast majority of professionals agree that pit bull advocates are gullible morons.<br /><br />charles w, please post links to some of the "vast majority of professionals" who claim these frankenmaulers were TAUGHT to break containment and maul people and their pets.<br /><br /><br />"your all gay for fuck sake any dog is dangerous, i have pits and the are terretorial by nature but lovely dogs"<br /><br />anonymous, that statement conflicts with other nutters who say "my pibble never met a stranger and would help a burglar clean me out."<br /><br />you guys really need to hold a conference and come to a consensus on your propaganda. you all look stupid!scurrilous amateur bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-63308157594537670882011-10-25T15:50:12.456-07:002011-10-25T15:50:12.456-07:00Ever cross your mind the dogs that maul were taugh...Ever cross your mind the dogs that maul were taught to do that? What an emotional midget. The Pitbulls that bite are like ANY other dog. The ones that maul, were trained! EVERY TIME! The VAST majority of professionals, and every other study that has ever been done disagrees with this article.Charles W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08185548252107224609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-34370806148009868422011-07-13T15:01:45.244-07:002011-07-13T15:01:45.244-07:00Anonymous, that was such a mature comment! You hav...Anonymous, that was such a mature comment! You have just proven why people like you shouldn't own that breed!! LOL!<br />I have been a pet groomer for 25 years, majority of dogs do give a warning when they're going to bite. Most small breeds are the culprits of biting only because their owners treat them like spoiled children without discipling them. I have a good friend that has raised a pit bull from 7 weeks, and one night she and her boyfriend were fighting and the arguement got heated. Her sweet pit bit them both, her requiring a visit to the doctor and left with a very nasty scar. I love dogs dearly and totally agree with this article, each breed is bred with a certain purpose and we all know what pits were bred for.......meegritshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02254760591857852382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-36529658568027701312011-06-23T11:13:04.433-07:002011-06-23T11:13:04.433-07:00@anon 8:14 - thanks for setting the record straigh...@anon 8:14 - thanks for setting the record straight - what were we thinking? No, seriously, did you even read the article?Jakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00482549578598366599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-26822451962065258672011-06-23T08:14:21.922-07:002011-06-23T08:14:21.922-07:00your all gay for fuck sake any dog is dangerous, i...your all gay for fuck sake any dog is dangerous, i have pits and the are terretorial by nature but lovely dogsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-36970390593785225472011-03-25T17:24:06.361-07:002011-03-25T17:24:06.361-07:00@poison - While I will readily acknowledge that th...@poison - While I will readily acknowledge that there are pits who appear docile, some for many years, there doesn't seem to be a fool-proof way to tell in advance whether a particular pit is going to stay docile forever, or at some point go into the red zone. <br /><br />The all too familiar response to a horrific mauling by a pit bull comes from the owner who invariably says "I can't understand how this could have happened, he's so sweet, he's never done anything like this before." <br /><br />Given the risk, I think ownership of a pit bull should have some competency requirements. Those who really understand the breed do the whole lion-tamer routine; the isolation, crate-and-rotate, the breaking bar, the need for reinforced enclosures etc. The pit bulls that these folks own are not a problem. <br /><br />It's the people who innocently bring home a pit bull thinking it's just like a lab or a golden retriever who inadvertently put themselves and others in danger. They might get lucky and have a pit bull that behaves, but they might not. The risk really ought to be properly managed, that's all I'm saying.Jakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00482549578598366599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-13871723095709571312011-03-25T17:10:51.702-07:002011-03-25T17:10:51.702-07:00@Jake: You just said it: There are still docile ...@Jake: You just said it: There are still docile pits. If ALL pits have the same bred-in trait, how would this be possible?Po1s0nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05462736833202647824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-35358416666057790462011-03-20T10:49:59.507-07:002011-03-20T10:49:59.507-07:00Here is a link that explains why docile pit bulls ...Here is a link that explains why docile pit bulls are destroyed while aggressive pit bulls breed. Bottom line: pit bulls are still being selectively bred for maximum aggression. The pit bull problem is not getting better, it's getting worse -<br /><br />http://www.threeriverspublishing.com/TRP/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4623:new-charges-in-local-pit-bull-fighting-ring&catid=30&Itemid=201Jakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00482549578598366599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-37431664927364468812011-03-15T17:25:18.792-07:002011-03-15T17:25:18.792-07:00There is something wrong with a dog that needs to ...There is something wrong with a dog that needs to be trained or socialized in a specific way to know how to act like other dogs. As has been often stated, the vast majority of breeds do not want to fight. They have specific rituals that they understand. Even before an actual fight, there will usually be some open mouth barking and head waving near the other dog. This is to warn the other dog to back off or the jaws might close next time. This gives both dogs an out and the owners time to intervene. It is similar to humans pointing fingers and pushing it each other prior to a fist fight. The gripping dogs go straight for the fight as all this display would get you killed in the dog ring.DubVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14367764785422714196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-38681568544755467082011-03-15T15:32:20.501-07:002011-03-15T15:32:20.501-07:00@P - yep, anything is fair game, nothing is sacred...@P - yep, anything is fair game, nothing is sacred, there are no limits, there are no rules, there are no boundaries. What other type of dog has ever engaged in home-invasion assaults? There have been at least 3 cases of home invasion attacks by pit bulls in the news the past few months.<br /><br />@DubV - Yes, there's a difference. I was bitten Sunday by a shaggy little dog in the dog food store. I'd inadvertently gotten into his space, and he reacted defensively, the typical "bite, release and retreat" thing that doggies do when they feel threatened. I felt bad for the little guy, I suspect he'd been abused and wanted to ask about his background but his owners were embarrassed and left pretty quickly.Jakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00482549578598366599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-36713433431151741252011-03-15T15:14:43.763-07:002011-03-15T15:14:43.763-07:00What P. said is true. My small dog has never bitte...What P. said is true. My small dog has never bitten me. He has a few times touched his mouth to me accidentally while he was warning another dog to back off that was intimidating him. For instance, he was threatened and barking and I scooped him up quickly and he thought I was the "bad guy" and turned while barking. He immediately got the doggie "I screwed up" look with ears down, averted eyes, tail down, slouched over, etc.; and seemed like he felt horrible for quite a while until he approached with plaintitive licks.DubVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14367764785422714196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-75495360416673531152011-03-15T09:48:13.690-07:002011-03-15T09:48:13.690-07:00In my decades of doing rescue, I have learned that...In my decades of doing rescue, I have learned that almost any dog when engaged in a fight can turn on anyone that tries to stop the fight. However, almost all dogs realize as soon as they do that, it was a mistake and back off. Not so for pits, they take it out completely on whoever is unfortunate enough to intervene. What pit nutters don't realize is that pits never read the book on canine social rules. Anything and everything is fair game to a pit bull, including owners, small children, beloved pets.Friends Administratorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04186180027314619778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-82658082458229736362011-03-14T23:25:16.490-07:002011-03-14T23:25:16.490-07:00Great writing, great mule video ;)Great writing, great mule video ;)DubVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14367764785422714196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524655808844578153.post-74293007173456819442011-03-14T16:47:41.446-07:002011-03-14T16:47:41.446-07:00Great job! btw, i think i hear the gaskets blowing...Great job! btw, i think i hear the gaskets blowing:)<br /><br />re: border collie and this statement, "The dog is happiest when expressing his innate behavior."<br /><br />and miserable when it is denied! border collies become notoriously destructive when they are not allowed to engage in their innate behavior. i wonder if this is why pit bulls are attacking more people and why they tend to redirect their aggression towards the nearest person (often their own family) when they can't get to that dog outside the window?scurrilous amateur bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.com